THE JOE ROGAN ‘DECIDES YOUR’ EXPERIENCE & THE EX FIGHTER & KID PODCAST

I’m not sure where to start this practical Colossal Concerns blogpost, but not because I haven’t  wrote a blog for a while; no, don’t worry, I haven’t lost my mastery of the written word. I don’t know where to start because of what I heard on the latest The Fighter and The Kid podcast, a show where Bryan Callen, a comedian and “the kid”, and Brendon Schaub, a UFC heavyweight MMA fighter, do a podcast together. The episode I’m writing about came out a couple of days after Schaub had lost a first round TKO MMA fight to #3 ranked heavyweight Travis Brown. Joe Rogan joins them and they talk about Schaub’s loss. Now, from watching the podcast, Joe mention to Schaub that, “he wanted to do this on the podcast; it was his [Schaub’s] idea”. So it was expected to come up. And, after all, if you’re going to do a podcast about MMA, and you’re fighting in the UFC, then surely you should talk about it. As it’s a straight from the horse’s mouth take, people like this. But when Schaub agreed to talk about it on air, I guarantee he did not expect to be blasted with Rogan’s forceful version of ‘the truth’.​

Before I go any further, I feel I better set up the debate/brutal verbal shellacking as well as point out I’m a fan of the Joe Rogan Experience and have even been lucky enough to be on the podcast as well as enjoying countless hours of it. All through the podcast Joe pointed out that fighters should hear what he has to say to Schaub about brain trauma and retirement. Brian Callen talks about the transition from fighting mma to normal life which many fighters struggle with. All subjects that should be have more light shone on them. As these are real problem that you don’t hear anyone talk about. Full marks for that, what I didn’t like was, well here’s what I didn’t like

So the podcast starts with Schaub taking about how his fans go on a journey with him, how he feels like he’s let these same fans down but he doesn’t feel any pressure from that – remember, this is only two days after his loss. He was all over the place, contradicting himself and basically trying to make the best out of the shit he was left with after the TKO lose. Now generally doing a in depth podcast about this so soon after the event isn’t the best idea. But this depends on what kind of character you are and how honest you can be with yourself. In this case, Schaub doing a podcast before he’s properly come to terms with the loss was not a good idea. He talks about how he didn’t feel right on the night, the press conferences, selling the fight with trash talk – all just a lot of verbal designed to patch up his bruised and battery ego. I’ve never really taken to Schaub. I don’t feel like he’s particularly honest with himself; hearing him talk about how it was his fault that he ate that uppercut and he’ll take the blame for that, I was kind of like, “Yeah. No shit”. All Schaub’s talk was acting as a kind of bubble wrap insulating him from as much pain as it could. He was trying to say he was looking and talking at the ref yet the ref still stopped the fight. Obviously Schaub hadn’t quite come to terms with what had happened. This used to bother me about fighters, how they just can’t seem to grasp the reality of the situation. But now I understand: it’s important to a lot of fighters to have this mental wiring in place to help them deal with a loss as well as getting back in the cage. However misguided their thought process might be it does serve a useful function.​ Does it serve a useful purpose if you’re constantly being beaten half to death and have more fights lined up while not changing anything? No, is Schaub at that cross roads? Not in my opinion.

Now this is where it gets tricky. You see, Joe Rogan is a very intelligent man. He might talk about how he’s just a retarded shaved ape who knows nothing, but take it all with a pinch of salt because Joe’s sharp and all the points he made at the start were valid. Schaub was stiff, looked unprepared, his movement was poor, he left gaps, and basically how shit he looked and the fact he wasn’t a elite fighter. All of this I think is fair game. Rogan was being honest, brutal but honest. He’s was giving constructive criticism talking about what needs to change to get Schaub to that top level, to reach that rarefied air of elite mma fighter. After all, Schaub said he wanted to talk about it on air, but be careful what you wish for I would have said to Schaub at that point. But the conversation didn’t stick to those constructive points, we ventured far away from constructive criticism and end up on brain trauma and retirement. Rogan said he worried about Schaub and his  commitment to fighting, that he thinks he has one foot out the door, and he’s looking at where the future will take him and where he’s going to go with MMA, till one day they (the fighter) think ‘How long can I do this for?’ Now, I don’t know Schaub and I don’t know how true any of that is, but that heavy shit, it goes beyond saying I think your movement sucks and needs to get better. This is where I start having a problem with what Joe was saying because I feel he forgets himself. The more Schaub kicks back, the more Joes goes deeper. Joe said, “What if I went on stage and I wasn’t funny and sucked dick, I’d hope my friends would let me know”. Yeah, I’m sure you would appreciate it, Joe, if you had a bad night and your friends told you to quit your comedy career for your own good because you weren’t funny anymore and all this was done on a podcast to the whole comedy community. Of course you’d be fine with that… I’m surprised Schaub didn’t lose it then having his performance rated at dick sucking level, so bad he should retire.

My main problem is Joe decided Schaub isn’t going to get to that next level so he might as well quit and save those brain cells because every fighter is bound to get brain damage, it’s just a fact. Then you get Callen interjecting and talking about how funny Schaub is and how he could do so many other things. It was so painful and patronising to hear. Listening to Joe  decide that because of what he knows about brain damage and combat sport, because he’s friends with Schaub and this information could save him, that’s why he’s telling him HIS painful truth. Someone needs to remind Joe that just because he doesn’t think Schaub can  get to the next level, doesn’t mean Schaub can’t, and  telling him he can’t in front of an massive audience of mma fans can compound and magnify whatever issues Schaub might have. The chances Joes words help is friend are minimum. But Joe can say I told you so, if Schaub carries on with his mma career and he does get hurt. I’m not saying Joe did this for that reason what I’m saying is it more likely to hinder then help.

Because Schaub’s going to say, ‘Yeah Joe, you’re right about everything. I’m just going to shelve my MMA dreams and throw this ego and pair of balls away. I mean, I won’t be needing them and we’ll just rename the podcast I do with Bryan ‘The Ex-fighter and The Kid’, No, is he fuck! He’s going to think “fuck it!” and get back in there. Because he’s a fighter, and that’s what fighters do epically a fighter who young-ish (30) and has come a long way. A one point after Joe dropped his Implied versions of the future, a future were Schaub dribbling, rocking and shouting out potato at random passer bys (those are all my words) Joe says to Schaub who’s probably in shock and wondering wtf all this is, he says to Schaub  “don’t look at me defiantly “after Schaub says he will carry on fighting, this is upsetting to me I mean, do you want to suck all the fight out of the guy who’s a fighter ?” Everything Joe said will hang heavy on his shoulders – or maybe he’ll switch camp and use it as fuel and prove Joe wrong and they’ll laugh about it while getting stoned on the podcast in years to come. Or maybe the pressure that builds up because everyone is watching only to see if you fall, makes you more likely to fall. I don’t know, the point is no one does and I know for that reason Joe shouldn’t have gone down that road especially on a podcast. Look, one of the worst things to do in a fight is overthink. Joe said it himself in not so many words when he said that stupid fighters do a lot better because they’re not smart enough to get the risks. Ignorance is bliss. I know from my only experience fighting pro mma for a year and a half and then finding myself in Pride, stupid can get you a long way. So what I’m saying is all this talk about how shit Schaub is or isn’t, about brain trauma and getting knocked out, will surely play on Schaub’s mind, how can it not?  Not because it’s the truth, but because it can become the truth if Schaub becomes so consumed and worried about the issues instead of fixing them. I feel Joe didn’t really think about how Schaub was feeling; it was just a case of ‘take this nasty medicine, it’s for your own good’. It was very galling to listen to.

It got especially hard to listen to when Joe told Schaub that, “the issue you’re going to have to deal with now is not wanting to go out like that”. Then Joe goes on to tell us about his experience about when he was fighting and going out on a KO loss after a kickboxing bout and how you just have to get over it. This sums up a lot of my problem with how Joe approached all this. He decides what the issues Schaub will have and how he needs to deal with them. It smacked of arrogance and didn’t actually help his friend because Schaub’s not going to stop fighting because of this.

It really reminds me of when Dana took it upon himself to retire Chuck Liddell. I mean, Dana had a point, no doubt, but the way it was done was distasteful. No one has the right to say, ‘You’re done’, but you can say ‘I’m not giving you another fight, but take this great job at the UFC’. That’s a cool thing to do, but don’t say ‘Chuck’s done. I’ve got him a new job now’. I feel Joe said this because he’s done the maths and the results do not come out good for Schaub. Joe thinks it’s his place to inform Schaub – but then I believe he just made thing worse.​

Take this from me I know this well from having fallen in to similar pitfalls and trying to cope with it. If you fight MMA, seriously fight MMA, It takes everything you have, you give it more, it takes more until  you become (in this case)  Brendon “the UFC cage fighter” Schaub, that’s your identity and when that’s your identity,  you become your results. So a TKO loss isn’t just a loss, now it’s part of you, you literally feel like you’re dying inside. I went through a massive KO losing streak when my opponents got better. I started MMA late 23 with no experience. I wasn’t training in the right places and cultivated drug and gambling problems. Life was dark. That insipid cycle kept spinning downwards. People have often said, and rightly so (at that time) about me quitting fighting for all the very same reasons Joe said to Schaub – just not done so publicly and with more tact. And guess what: I came back. I came back because I addressed these issues. If I go further, it’ll be because I’ll address more issues. If I don’t, it’s because I didn’t. But regardless, it’s my choice. Who knows how long I’ll fight for. I’ve been close to the edge of quitting a few times but I kept going and it was the right choice. Even though a few years ago I was done for, because I thought I was done for and now I’m not because I believe I’m not. The key is backing the belief up with hard work. This is all down to Schaub my point is whatever reality he wants to achieve he can and he shouldn’t let anyone tell him differently.

I’ll attempt to play amateur psychologist, I think Joes eyes being opened to brain trauma and how delicate the head is, has taken some of the shine away from working with the UFC and watching MMA. He talked about quitting commentating because of seeing his friends making mistakes in fights and the price their health had to pay for it. I see how, as a friend, you would be concerned. But don’t overstep the mark, don’t try and make the decision for that person. It was so awkward that it cracked me up when, after Joe had done a good fifteen minutes on head trauma – so much so that I’m sure I could feel my temples starting to pulsate and ache listening to how Schaub “Would pay the price because no one rides for free” – Callen the comedian desperately  tries to play both sides and not piss anyone off and says after Joe head trauma biltzeig  “Take some time, not to out you on the spot or anything” and Joe says, “Yeah, kind of on the spot”. I think, fuck me, you have just been railroading poor Schaub for the last hour and a half so much so I was wondering if Joe was looking for a tap out from Schaub  on air. And Joe thinks Callen is putting him on the spot. Classic!

The last thing that really showed me that this kind of in-depth, soul crushing convo would be better off done behind closed doors was when Callen said, “Everyone’s made their point. We don’t have to talk about it anymore”, which translates to Joe’s told you how it is. You don’t have to give a response because I find this all too awkward because I can’t appease both sides. So he launches right into a Hulu Plus commercial. Or when Schaub says, “I can see myself with the title, it’s the only reason I do this”. Long big arse pause filled to bursting with awkwardness before Callen says, “The ONLY REASON …?” It was just wrong on so many different levels. I really felt for Schaub, everyone telling him how funny and good looking he was, about how he can do anything he wants. I’m sure Joe had Jamie (technical support) looking through ‘help wanted’ ads as Callen told Schaub, “Not many people have the wherewithal to handle this”. What was this? Is it coming to do a podcast and finding out Uncle Joe decided it’s time you stop this fighting malarkey? I bet Jamie was shitting himself thinking I’m going lose my job, it’s going to Schaub any minute now’. ​

I was screaming for Schaub to stand up to Joe, apart from saying “how easy it is for Joe to comment with millions in the bank” he didn’t offer any kind of offence at all. The reason I think Schaub didn’t stand up for himself more, apart from being in shock, was that I don’t think he figured on getting the “brain trauma intervention”. If Joe and Schaub did talk beforehand about retirement, brain trauma etc and agreed to talk about it on the podcast this whole blog means nothing and sorry for wasting your time as Schaub knew what was coming. But I can tell from Schaub’ reaction that they didn’t talk about it in that much detail beforehand especially as Schaub voiced his opinion on air about not even putting the podcast out. The other reason I THINK he didn’t stand up for himself more was because he didn’t want to piss Joe off. I mean they’re talking about Schaub’ life after mma, doing things with someone like Joe Rogan, fight companion (where they watch and comment on UFC fights), having Joe on their podcast the fighter and the kid Is all good. Joe Rogan is a good friend to have to help you make that move if that what you want to do. This is just idle speculation I’m just guessing but it does make sense. You don’t have a go at the guy who says you should quit mma because you don’t want to upset him just In case when you do quit mma you need him. All very twisted and why I felt for Schaub. He was in a very strange, difficult spot. I’m really hoping he take Joe’s opinion at what it is, an opinion, not the truth or the future or fact. If he works hard enough he can achieve anything he sets his mind to. I’ll certainly be cheering for him next time he’s in the cage.

Here’s the podcast I’m talking about

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CONSPIRACIES IN MMA

 

I love a good conspiracy theory (please see http://colossal-personal-concerns.com/2012/12/02/where-to-draw-the-line-conspiracy-theories/ ) and with the recent stories circulating (that I’ve painfully read through – I’ll never get that time back) that Anderson Silva took a dive because, errrrrr, he got a bit bored at being champion…

It got me thinking about other Mma conspiracies that have echoed throughout the timeline of Mma, and I’ve put together a few, of varying distinction that run the gauntlet ( if this was on TV; which is a strange thought in itself since it’s a blog, but bear with me, we’d be going into the flash back dream sequences bit right about now)

Seeing as the ‘Anderson Silva took a dive’ dribble is what inspired this blog, I’ll start with that (Don’t worry it won’t take long).

 

– Spiders Web:

Anyone who says Anderson Silva took a dive is either a troll or a fool and I don’t have time for either. Maybe Silva was lacking motivation, and maybe subconsciously he was fed up, but since there isn’t an app out there yet that delves into the subconscious of mma greats it’s something we’ll never know and, anyway, who cares? Weidman stepped in, did the business and went home with the title. All this talk of Silva ‘gifting’ him the title dilutes this great achievement for Weidman.

Colossal Conspiracy Conclusion: If you believe Silva took a dive, or in any way ‘gifted’ out this fight,  then you should do two things. The first is repeatedly hit yourself over the head with a large rock, and the second is get another hobby…. maybe you can combine the two: Rating 0/10

 

– An ‘Oily’ GSP:

This all came about when Bj Penn lost his challenge to regain the welter weight title from GSP on Jan 31st 2009. Between rounds it looked like some kind of Vaseline was applied to GSP’s body. While it did look like small particles of something were applied; was this magic lotion the reason for Bj Penn failing to take the title back? No I’m afraid, it’s not that easy. Titles aren’t won, or lost, on whether a small amount of Vaseline is applied. It’s just not that simple. You can find lots of YouTube video’s showing the alleged ‘magic substance’ being applied to GSP. BJ Penn took it all the way to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, but none of the allegations could be made to stick to GSP. This could’ve also been down to Vaseline.

Colossal Conspiracy Conclusion: A strange one since, if I was going to put money on it, I do think small amounts of Vaseline were applied to GSP. The fact one of GSP’s corner men was pictured with a tub in the cage during the fight hints that it was, but how much bearing does this have in the fight? I’d say to arrive at this answer take the small amount of Vaseline, that might or might not have been applied, divide it by 10, then subtract by 100, then divide it by two, twice. Short answer is not a lot. Rating: A strange 5/10 since I think Vaseline smearing did happen, but didn’t effect or change the outcome of the fight.

 

– Fixes with Frye:

The date was …… 1996. The event so good they named it twice. Ultimate, ultimate ’96’ tournament.

Tank Abbott was in the final against either Mark Hall or Don Frye. Hall says Frye and his management came into his dressing room asking for a ‘buy’ to the final. Frye had already fought for 17 minutes and Tank was pretty fresh. According to Hall he decided to take the $50,000 he alleged he never received, and took a dive. ( if it happened the way Hall said it did then the decision was probably made easier by the fact that Frye had beaten Hall twice previously).

If we look at the fight it does end extremely quickly and, with the old favourite, if you’re going to fix a fight do it with the Achilles lock. But who knows? It seems a strange thing for Hall to say if it’s untrue.

I wish I’d asked Frye when I last saw him but, alas, I forgot! He probably would have told me to fuck off anyway.

 

Like I mention briefly in a previous Colossal concerns on fixes in Mma here,  http://colossalconcerns.com/2012/04/22/fixes-in-mma/ Frye says Hall is a seriously damage individual.

Colossal Conspiracy Conclusion: Who knows? I mean really, it’s one thing to take a dive but it’s another thing to do it on an I.O.U basis. But Hall didn’t think he was going to win going off the last two fights so I’m thinking Frye knew he’d win it. It was just a case of getting to the final with enough gas in the tank, to beat tank. So I’ll rate this as a 7/10 (Don’t hurt me Don).

 

– Kimbo and Elite’s fall from grace:

Well that, as we all know, was at the hands of the recently retired Seth Petruzelli. Not only did he have the audacity to beat the golden ghetto boy, but then, after he’d done it, he talked candidly about how he was offered a ‘stand up’ bonus for his fight with Kimbo and even insinuated that it was agreed before the fight. Talk about crashing the party! Seth’s invite to Elites party had him drinking all the beer, making out with their wives, kicking the dog and going to the bathroom on their best rug! The party was over.

Elite couldn’t take the double bubble of the star’s defeat and these stand up allegations, and so Elite folded like a cheap deckchair.

I think I was offered a 5k KO bonus in my contract with Elite against Kimbo, obviously ‘slimy’ Shaw didn’t think much of my stand up.

Colossal conspiracy Conclusion: Seth had no reason to lie. Shamrock was injured, Elite were flustered and Shaw went into slime overload and KO’d the company. I’d put your life on it, my life on it, and any living person’s life on it. That’s why it’s getting a CCC rating of 10/10

 

So on to my final Mma Conspiracy. I started with a stupid far out one so I might as well end with one.

 

-A knock out so good, it has to be fake:

Ben Henderson gets knocked down and loses the light weight WEC title due to what can only be described as a kick from the gods. Only it wasn’t Zeus, or any other god like creation that delivered it, it was from Anthony Pettis. Remember that kick? It was like something out of Tekken 2. I spent a lot of time watching that fight looking at Pettis corner to see if they had a controller. I mean it really was something special. This makes the Conspiracy even harder to take as, like the Weidman win over Silva, it tries to dilute something great.

Now the kick itself was a thing of beauty. Henderson back pedals as Pettis bounces of the cage to deliver a kick to the side of Henderson’s head. So what’s the problem? Well as Henderson was backing up he hit the cage. He then put his back foot on the cage wall before circling and falling victim to Pettis kick.

I can only think because the kick was so amazing (which is credit to Pettis) the geniuses put 2+2 together and got 4097.3.

Yes Henderson put his foot up on the cage just before the kick landed, but so what? He was getting his cage bearings. Why would a young, upcoming, talented fighter take a dive? Why would the UFC, who owned WEC, bother to ‘fix’ a fight when they were winners either way, as both fighters were marketable?

Let’s fail to mention in all this that the kick actually hits home! It’s not like we’re talking about a suspicious phantom kick here, it actually lands. The whole who ha about Henderson’s foot on the cage is stupidity of the highest order and I’m getting on my own nerves writing about it.

I’m in a bad mood now. I need to see the affirmation to clear my head from the dullards that even suggest these things.

Colossal conspiracy Conclusion: 0/10

So that was an assortment of Mma Conspiracies, ranging from the laughable, to as much of a sure thing as you can get. On the whole, fixes and general conspiracies in Mma are pretty light on the ground (unless I’m fighting 😉 and with a bit of luck we’ll keep it that way.

 

 

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MMA & THE EGO

 

 

Throughout my 10 years or so in Mma I’ve gone back and forth with my opinions on the ego and how important it is in Mma.

The first thing I believe that you have to do is recognize that you have one. Seems like a silly thing to say, but I think so many fighters fall foul of recognizing when their ego is doing the talking, and maybe they should give it a rest and take over for a while. But is letting your ego run away with you a bad thing and if so why? This is a very complex, convoluted question, one which I’ll do my best to answer.

First off since everyone is different, not to mention every situation is different, there isn’t any right or wrong answer.

Now, when I first started Mma I would’ve argued that I didn’t really have an ego. I knew I was a beginner, I had no illusions of grandeur and I listened and tried to learn as much as I could. I linked someone who had an “ego” as a bad thing because like most people… I link ego with arseholes (not literally as I’m not quite sure how that would work).

Because I haven’t ever classed myself as an arsehole, I didn’t think I had an ego. I’ll explain why I was wrong.

When I was training there were no real Mma clubs about so I trained the three martial arts separately, Ju Jit su, Boxing & Wrestling. I remember when I started to get a bit fitter and I’d gained a few low level wins under my belt I watched Pride. Nog vs. Fedor. I recall thinking I’m not there yet but I’m not a million miles away. When the reality was that I was really a couple of light years away!
Looking back, what I believe would have helped me was if I had been sat down and told the cold hard truth, then again if I had then I might not have even stepped foot in the ring/cage to start with.

The problem is that positive thinking can be part of the problem itself, but it will only take you so far when it comes to your ego. Reality caught up with me and let me tell you it has a hell of a right hand.

This is what I was talking about earlier. Once your ego takes a body blow, how will you react to it? When something like this happens the vast majority of fighters lose. I used to get pissed off when I detected a bullshit excuse from a fighter about losing a fight. I’d think come on now. I think it’s essential to look back see the mistake you’ve made hold your hands up and improve on them. The bullshit excuse stops the fighter from doing this and so I didn’t see any plus side in it.

These days I see things a little bit differently. Although I stick by my previous comments I now also see those ‘bullshit excuses’ are a safety device as for a lot of fighters. Bullshit excuses are an airbag that save the ego from taking too much damage. It’s needed because too much damage to the ego can really have a negative effect on a fighter’s mentality.

When it comes to fighting you have to really believe you’re going to win. If you can write off your loses with an excuse, but still train hard and improve what you need to improve, then you’re laughing.

This is why I envy some fighters out there who aren’t really too self-aware. They believe their own bullshit, which can be really helpful especially if you have a good coach who can see this and knows how to handle you with kit gloves and improves your weak areas.

Myself, I am very self-aware. For a while I thought I was TOO aware. When my trainer would say before a fight “ come on James, you’re ready for this, you’ve trained hard” I’d think no I haven’t, I’ve spent most the time at the blackjack table. That’s how I reacted to decisions that I saw as unfair back then.

I used to see this self-awareness as a disadvantage but it wasn’t. It will only work though  if you’re putting the time in at the gym. You can’t spend all your time listening to Antony Robbins tapes, enter Mma and then take the title in blitz of carnage and mangled bodies.

So to sum up. It’s important to listen and learn, stay grounded and realise you’ll never know it all, but at on the other hand if you hear a fighter giving excuses you don’t believe, give him a pass. It’s a tough sport and going out fighting in front of people takes a lot mentally and physically. Sometimes a fighter needs that ‘ego air bag’.

I remember Rampage Jacksons saying in a Pride interview

” I’m not going to give you excuses for my losses, but I have an excuse for all of them”

I realised if I wanted to fight and if I couldn’t baffle myself with my own bullshit then I’d better start putting the effort in. That way, win or lose, I could be satisfied I had done everything I could.

Being injured after the Lashley fight, then having a whole array of sickness and injuries, has given me a lot of time to reflect on my career and now I’m healthy (although fat at the time of writing this) I’ve looked at my weak areas and took apart my training, so next time so you see me you’ll see a more ‘in tune’ Colossus, mentally and physically, who will be dishing out some damage and finishing the last part of his career on top…. Grrrrrrrrrr… I told you I had an ego 😉

 

 

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MEETING MY HERO – THEN HIM KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF ME

Meeting my hero
(then him kicking the shit out of me)

This was originally meant for the book I’m writing titled Gym tales and COLOSSAL adventures.
But seeing that I’ve got so many exciting, action packed, fun filled tales I thought- what the hell I’d throw out a bit of a free taster for you guys. Why? Well that’s just the kind of guy I am. So join me as I take a trip down memory lane and recall what it was like to meet my hero, Randy Couture, then have him kick the shit out of me.

So, I had been fighting mma for just over two years. I’d had two fights in pride and the daunting task at hand was starting to dawn on me. You’d think it would have hit me before this but a mixture of ego and the fact that I’m a slow learner delayed this process. I started to realise that if I wanted to improve- which I did- I needed to be pushed. Even though I was by no means the most skilled person at Trojan mma club where I was training at the time, I was the biggest and I’d muscled my way out of trouble thus far. I realised when I fought some one that was my own weight I wouldn’t be able to do this and there wasn’t anyone my size to spar with at Trojan either.

It became clear I was going to have to travel to get the things I needed from training. Where to go, where to go?

I decided on team quest in Portland, Oregon. I knew I was fighting in two months for Pride FC and since it was in Pride I was getting used to the fact that I had no idea who my opponent might be so I opted for team quest. Home of such greats like Randy Couture, Dan Henderson and Matt Lindland. How could I go wrong training with guys like that!? Whoever the’ Pride powers that be’ saw fit to pit me against… I’d be ready.

So I made a phone call to Team Quest. They told me there was a motel I could stay at that was literally across the road from the gym and that I’d be welcome to train there so I told them when I’d be over, put the phone down, booked my flight and counted down the weeks till I’d be there.

I can’t remember that much of Oregon. I think it’s because for the most part of the eight weeks I trained there I was literally on the same road that had my motel on. The super market was just across the road from Quest and that was all good for me.

I arrived late, around ten pm. I checked into my motel and said hello to my crack head neighbours. They seemed nice enough, a bit twitchy but all was good. I settled into the room, got my training kit ready for the next day and resisted the great temptation to buy the ‘miracle knife’ which was a on an infomercial I found strangely entertaining.

The next day I was up early. I found a nearby restaurant and had breakfast then made the short walk to Team Quest. I was an hour early but whatever; I could get a feel of the place and warm up a bit.

I entered the gym from a side entrance. There was a small room with mats and bags then the reception in the middle then the main room which had a huge matted area. I approached the reception area and introduced myself to a lady called Willow. Willow looked a hippie but strangely for hippie she was in shape. A ‘high performance hippie’ if you will. I half expected her to try and sell me a dream catcher as I explained who I was and why I was standing in front of her. She was as nice and welcoming as could be and showed me to the changing rooms.

I got myself ready and made my way to the main room to start warming up. Half way through my third round of shadow boxing a voice said “Hi buddy do you want to spar?” I ceased my devastating combo of punches and I can tell you my imaginary opponent was VERY relieved. I turned round to see the voice belonged to Mr Randy Couture. His back was towards me and he was rummaging in his training bag. I don’t know why I was so shocked to see him standing in front of me, I mean this was his gym after all, but I was.

Even though I had heard him my response was “eh??” I don’t know why I said this. Was I buying time while the reality of the situation absorbed into my frontal lobe? I immediately thought this sounded rude when Randy said “Sparing, would you like to spar?”

This was unreal. Would I like to spar with Randy Couture? This was too much, of course I would!

I said yes, well I actually said “aye” (Which is a northern way of saying ‘yes’).

A puzzled looked came across Randy’s face and he said “your eye?” in a somewhat puzzled tone of voice.

This wasn’t the first time an American had trouble making out what I was saying, in fact Americans on the whole have enormous difficulty in trying to understand what I’m trying to convey. That is until I teach them the Queen’s English.

“Of course Mr Couture I would be honoured to part take in the said duel” I said like a character out of Pride and Prejudice…

I’m only kidding I think I said something like “aye, I mean yeah I’d love to have a spar”

I’m not sure how much Randy understood me as he said “Oh you mean yes”. He must have been thinking – fucking hell this simple question is a workout in itself!

I again responded with “aye”. It was an automatic response. If I would’ve had a miracle knife to hand I would’ve willingly fallen on it.

I quickly followed with “I mean yes, great of course”.

He smiled and carried on putting on his training kit. This whole conversation must have lasted all of thirty seconds but it felt like a lifetime. I suddenly realised my mouth was so dry that my tongue seemed to be welded to the top of my mouth. I went to get a drink of water, then stopped and went to put on my gloves then tripled back as I realised it would be easier to drink water without having boxing gloves on!

I was glad Randy wasn’t paying me any attention as it looked like I’d decided to jack in Mma to start doing the robot.

Get a grip Thompson, I silently demanded to myself as I walked over to my water. I drank, put my shin pads and boxing gloves on and walked to where Randy was waiting for me. When I look back I didn’t feel nervous, I mean I’m sure I did but that emotion would have been further down the list of what I was feeling, after surrealness and just pure awe.

We touched gloves. Randy was circling out of distance and I was wondering how hard to go. I mean, I hadn’t sparred that much due to lack of training partners of my size and when I got in the ring/cage I tended to go for the ‘all out full psycho’ approach, which I would never do in training. As I was mulling over this delicate quandary, a stiff jab landed straight on my chin quickly followed by another.

I rushed forward; Randy got under hooks and took me down. I then spent a lot of time on my back being ground and pounded.

I can’t remember too much more about it as I was getting tired and hit a lot! Even through all this I am willing to bet there was no-one more happy to be punched in the face!! Other fighters started to come in to train at this point, so we called it a day.

As I was grabbing some water it suddenly occurred to me I hadn’t landed a punch or got a take down. I hadn’t done anything apart from be an ‘over happy punch bag’. My joy of being beat up dissipated and I started to feel embarrassed – When you’re a fighter of any age and you train somewhere else you always want to give a good account for yourself. I hadn’t done that and suddenly felt sick.

I introduced myself to Robert Follis, the head coach at Quest, there were a hell of a lot of fighters in the gym now. We all warmed up in the massive matted area before sparring with each other. I sparred with Matt Lindland first. I recall that I was very determined to give a good account for myself. I can’t remember much of the spar except that I got an arm bar right at the end of the round. I remember this as firstly it was Matt Lindland and secondly I never go to get arm bars.

I was feeling like I’d redeemed myself a little in this spar. We had a minutes rest and then went with someone else.

The next guy (I can’t remember his name) had only had a couple of fights and was a small, light heavy weight wrestler, but he guillotined me in the first 30 seconds. I was then arm barred by Dan Henderson from guard which I thought was out of order since I’ve never seen Dan do this. Then I got tapped out loads by Matt Horwich, who I thought was a little unorthodox in his methods, as he would tell me what he was going to do before he did it. He wasn’t actually saying his next move out loud for my benefit, he was obviously organising his moves in his own head and speaking them out loud, but it went a bit like this

“Horwich gets a under hook, takes the single leg, heel hook and then Horwich gets the tap” it just what he did sometime but it worked for him so fair play. (I’ve since met up with Horwich again when I fought in KSW and he’s a genuinely nice guy and I wish him well in multi universal life and in his Mma endeavours 🙂

Anyway back to Team Quest. I was exhausted by this point, when Lindland ask for another spar! My body cried out as I was tapped and pummelled relentlessly. It was a mad, painful first day but I really enjoyed it – apart from when Lindland’s glove caught my eye at the end of the last spar we had and it wouldn’t stop watering. It was painfully annoying and I couldn’t see out of my eye as it constantly streamed water.

At the end of the session Randy asked me if I wanted to get something to eat with him and Lindland which was great. I wasn’t nervous by then as I think my nerves had been beaten numb. Of course I got showered and took them up on their offer. I can’t remember much of the meal or the conversation as my eye was watering constantly and caused a massive distraction. Just my luck I thought, here I am sitting here with two Mma legends and all I can do is wince and dab my streaming eye with a napkin!

When I got back to my room I led on my bed and went through the events of the day. I started going over the mistakes I’d made while sparring then beating myself up over them which was easy as I was tired from everyone else giving me a beating. I started to feel down. I was letting my ego get the better of me. Instead of concentrating on the bad stuff which I’d been over analysing for the past hour I tried to look at the good stuff as well as the bad in order to help me improve. The things I had done at Quest, the fact I’d met so many Mma legends that were really nice people and the fact that I’d even eaten with Randy Couture and Matt Lindland… Jesus!! It had been a great day. What did I expect to come here and take over? Of course not. I realised that If I trained hard I could learn a lot from this whole experience and that’s what I intended to do.

Pride ended up giving me giant Silva to fight. A guy with not much skill but that posed a lot of difficult questions since well… he was a giant. I went into that fight feeling confident due to the fact that I’d had such a lot of help from Matt Follis (head coach at Quest) Mike Dolce who worked on my diet and strength and conditioning, and Jay White, my heavy weight sparring partner, not to mention all the legends I’ve mentioned before in this blog and a whole host of fighters I haven’t. Basically it was a great experience, one I’d recommend to any fighter to do. Get out of your comfort zone, leave your ego at home and go train.

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MAN UP (Not that much)

 

 

This next subject I’m about to tackle on Colossal Concerns surprises me in so much that when I first heard about it, I thought most people would overwhelmingly agree with my view point, which doesn’t seem to be the case now I’ve had the chance to read some of the articles and opinions floating around about the said subject.

So what I’m I talking about? Well it’s the transgender fighter called Fallon Fox. Fallon used to be a man and has now had the operation and medication to help her achieve his goal (it gets confusing) of being a woman. Hence the transgender part.

The part that has caused the controversy in all this is that Fallon now fights woman Mma.
Now, maybe I’m naive. When I first heard about this I thought the up roar would be immense about the fact Fallon is competing in a violent sport and the fact she used to be a man would give her a massive advantage. Not only that but Fallon KO’d two of her female opponents, that weren’t even aware of the fact that she used to be a he!

How can that be right? I mean let’s just boil it all down to facts here, no political correctness just facts, and then go from that point.

Before I go on let me just say I don’t care if you’re a midget, gay, black, fat or transgender or all of these thing put together. I’m not here to criticise transgender people, that’s not what this post is about, if it makes you happy or you think it will then crack on as it’s your business. Who am I, or anyone else, to get in your way? As long as you’re not hurting anyone else then good luck to you. But what happen when someone’s personal choice CAN hurt someone else – like in the case of combat sports.

Fallon Fox had the operation to change gender seven years ago, as far as I know Fallon never competed in Mma as a man (I couldn’t find evidence for this but I could be wrong) and has been on medicine to lower testosterone whilst increasing oestrogen which, then in turn, decreases strength and bone density along with other physical advantages a male might naturally have over a female.

On paper this supposedly makes it a level playing field.

Well… My issues, and I think Joe Rogan stated it very well when he said on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast that Fallon, even though taking appropriate medications to emulate female hormones and characteristics, will ‘still have the bone structure of a man’.

Even with all the medication in the world to make it more of a ‘level playing field’, I’m not buying it that Fallon doesn’t have a strong advantage. Let’s break it down.

Men have an advantage over woman when it comes to sports, largely because even when both sexes weigh the same men have twice as much muscle and half as much fat as a woman does (which as an aside is one of the good reasons, along with hormones that women have cellulite and us men don’t -well we do but it’s just hidden under lots of lean, manly muscle;) but the medication Fallon takes reduces that factor, right?

Ok, by how much? 50% 30% 10% someone give me a figure because I don’t know and it seems no one else does either. Why? Because the subject has not been looked into that closely and even if it was looked in to, it’s all subjective. You have the same issue when it comes to bone density and structure. Sure it depletes with this medication but by how much?

I think it’s been forgotten that another big advantage males have over females is that their organs are different sizes. Men have bigger hearts and lungs that obviously help power the body. So basically what are they telling us? That Fallon’s organs have decreased in size because of the medication being prescribed?

While all the treatment, medicine and such like, can do wonderful things, you can’t tell me that they’ve completely neutralised nature and made things a level playing field.

The only time that medicine will have come far enough to make it a level playing field will be the day that this situation occurs the other way around. A woman undergoing a sex change, to become a man, then entering the world of Mma and dominating a man because of the medication will be the only day that it will be fair. I wouldn’t hold your breath for that one.

I’m guessing a lot of people that are in favour of Fallon fighting females aren’t, in general, ‘in the know’ about combat sports. Fallon advocators are looking at the issue purely from a ‘we are all equal’ perspective. This is great but when it comes down to a physically enduring sport, where a lot of pain and damage is inflicted on someone, it’s not quite as simple as ‘we are all equal’

After saying all this do I think Fallon should be able to fight MMA… absolutely – As long her the female opponent knows what’s up.

Then it’s fair as her opponent has the choice to weigh up the facts and decide whether to accept the fight or not, that is the opponent’s personal choice. It infuriated me to hear in the media that either two or three of her opponents didn’t get to make that choice as the  fights were based on half-truths. What about THEIR rights as woman, competing in a physically damaging sport that can have lasting implications to their health. Who was looking out for the rights of these females?

I can’t image what it must be like to feel like you are trapped in the wrong body and the entire trauma you and your family must go through and, of course, Fallon has as much right to change sex and to do whatever makes her happy, that was her choice and I’m sure it wasn’t taken lightly as I’ve heard the transition is hard to go through.

As long as everyone involved in the fights knows the truth about the situation, then the choices each individual makes based on the facts are the only level playing field we’re going to get.

 

 

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MMA WITH A TWIST

Mma with a twist

In my time of watching and competing in MMA I’ve come across many variations of the sport. I imagine most of these ideas were hatched while consuming gallons of alcohol, drunkenly creating the ‘next big thing’ in combat sports. The geniuses that mustered these ideas have slipped, banged their heads, and in the morning -when sober- the ideas they had still, somehow, held some merit.
Let’s have a quick look at some of these creative ideas…

 

X-Arm – This is where you take a dismembered X-man’s arm. Not really, I’m only kidding as that would be silly. This is much more serious. This is where you strike your opponent while trying to pin their arm, like you would in a wrestling match. Art Davis, the man who brought you the UFC, gave us this gem. One out of one isn’t bad, Art..

 

Chess boxing– Like the name suggests – You play chess for 3 minutes, then you box. It’s apparently got a large following in Berlin, but then again they also put mayonnaise on their chips.

 

Ultimate ball – You have two teams of 4. You put them in a Mma cage. They have a small ball that they have to put it in a small goal on either side of the cage. The other team has to stop them. That’s all I could watch before the over-whelming urge to rip my own eyes out and hurt myself came over me!

 

Ymma– It’s Mma in a slightly different cage (it had slopes at the sides) creatively called ‘the pit’. This was also Art Davis’ brain child. One out of two…Please stop now Art.

 

Now, not one of these “sports” stuck. Which isn’t really that surprising as they’re all, well… shit, for want of a better word. A flash in the pan we call it, where after five minutes of watching them, the novelties worn off and is forgotten about as quickly as it came about.
I’m a Mma purest, in some much as you don’t need bells and whistles to be fitted to MMA. All you need is good MMA and the rest will take care of itself. I don’t get upset over any of it. I just laugh and wonder what Mr X was thinking about when he conjured up most of this shit and let the memory of the whole thing slip into the ether, so not to take up any valuable space on my mind.

Then a fella on twitter named @NeilJones72 asked me my opinion on the ‘Russian Hip Show’. Hmmm…. the hip show sounds like something that would be introduced on Britain’s Got Talent before being booed and buzzed out of the place. I don’t know what ‘hip’ stands for.
Let me do my best to try and explain what this is all about. Bear with me because, as of yet, I haven’t seen any English versions of the rules. What I am about to explain to you about the Russian ‘Hip show’ is just what I’ve gathered from watching myself.

So, you have two teams, made up of two blokes in a team. Both are the same weight (I assume). You give them Mma gloves and head gear and put them in what seems to be a giant jungle gym. This Jungle gym has different levels, slopes, ropes, blocks, walls with holes in, etc. Then throw a few tracksuit wearing Russians in to watch and, hey presto, you’ve got the Hip Show.

The combat icons are placed facing each other over a padded block. A whistle then goes off, and they fight. Now, the big difference here, apart from the fact they seemed to of kicked the kids out if their play area to hold this MMA hip show, is with this the fighters are part of a team. You can help your team mate out.
For example: if your team mate is being choked your ‘team mate’ could push your opponent off one of the giant blocks and rescues you by striking, submitting (not sure if kicking to the face on the floor is allowed) or anyway he sees fit.

If you knock your opponent out the bout is stopped. You go back to your foam block and it’s all restarted, minus the guy who just been KO. So it then becomes 2 against 1… Yep, only in Russia.

What did I think about all this when I watched it? Well, surprisingly, I really enjoyed it. Will it have any staying power, I haven’t a clue. But I found watching good MMA in these different circumstances fun and exciting. I still stand by my earlier statement that I’m an MMA purist and realistically this Russian Hip show isn’t going to take over MMA as really, come on, it’s just MMA but in different surroundings. The whole 2 onto 1 thing, while massively unfair, does make for great viewing

The ‘hip show’ has money. I know this because the format must cost loads (Jungle Gyms weren’t cheap last time I enquired) and they had Vinnie Jones (Britain’s favourite, violent, ex-football player) looking hard in a suit promoting it, and my guess would be that he’s not cheap to hire.

It’s only very early days for the Hip show, but here’s a couple if things that I think they did right, and what they need to do better.

 

Things they did right;

– They had some great fighters that came to fight. This is important as if you a had four guys that didn’t really know what they were doing, it could’ve quite easily become a school playground type environment very quickly

– Kept it about MMA – It’s MMA in a different environment. The ‘team’ element and it going two against one was different and interesting and kept me intrigued.

 

What they need to do better

– Explain what the fucks going on. -What are the rules? Who’s who? Give us some info…

– Make the info English – It’s not just Russians who like to see crazy violence. There should be a site that explains what’s going on in English so we can all understand.

– Change the name- I’m not sure what ‘The Hip show’ stands for. But whatever it is, it’s not working. You’ve done a lot right. You’ve held my interest for more than five minutes, but really, the names not helping

I think if the people behind the Hip show do some of these things then it stands a much better chance of hanging around for longer. It certainly got my interest.

Have a look let me know what you think

 

 

 

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MMA vs. BOXING

This old, tired, semi functioning, bed ridden ‘shitting where it lies’ debate has been given mouth to mouth and resurrected by a man that, funnily enough, fits the above description.

Tyson, real name Luke, called out Cain Velasquez ( The current UFC heavyweight champion) and any other fighter who’d ever put Mma gloves on, in what I think was an attempt to gain some kind of notoriety and get his name out in the States.

Now, I don’t want to go into this too much as I think covered it in my video (which is at the end of my blog), and verbally beating My Fury up is like taking candy from a baby with no arms, I.e. easy to do but you feel bad afterwards.

So instead I want to dissect the question: MMA VS. BOXING

I hate this question. To me it’s not even really a question. True, both are combat sports. True, Boxing is a large part of Mma, True, in both sports you have to be strong physically and mentally to compete but that’s where the similarities end.

It’s like saying ‘which is better, flying in a plane or a helicopter’? I thought this was an obvious thing but with all this Fury nonsense this debate seems to have been reignited, so I’m going to look at both sports and hopefully bring Colossal clarity to the table in regard to this matter.

Oh and please for the love of good could all you Dullards (a hybrid of a dull person and a retard) please stop telling me that if it was a boxing match, Fury would knock me out. Of course he would, like him or not Tyson Fury is a top heavyweight boxer. IF WE FOUGHT BOXING that’s more than likely to happen, but that’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying he can beat any MMA guy in the world.

Like me or not, I’m a high level mma fighter and 8/10 times (I’m being generous here) I’d power double him before choking him out. That isn’t down to my vast skill and knowledge as I know there are semi pros that would do the same to Fury.

Anyway enough of that deluded prick, I’m getting nauseous typing.

On to the topic at hand…. I’ll start with Boxing

First of all Boxing is a tough, really hard sport. Everyone, even Fury, should be given respect for getting in there. You take more damage in Boxing than in Mma because the main target is the head, whereas in Mma if I take a good crack, I can go for a double leg –

(Fury, please take note: this is where I’d lower my level, keeping my back and head straight upright. I’d cover the distance, grabbing behind your knee caps before running you over, like a stream train hurdling towards Bambi (you) producing a cheap, ugly, messy bit of road kill (also you)

– whereas in boxing your options are very limited. Also in Boxing if you get KO’d you get 10 seconds to get your head together before your opponent tries to take your head off again (Untold damage can be done in this way). In Mma the fight is over.

Now please… I’m not saying this is a good or a bad thing, I’m just stating the differences between the two sports as people seem to have trouble differentiating between the two.

When I first started Mma I thought Mma was harder to learn as you have to master more sports and mange to amalgamate them successfully to be a complete Mma fighter.

Rewind a little and look at what I was saying about boxing being a more physically damaging sport. Attacks in Boxing are limited to the body and head. As boxing is restricted to only striking with hands then Boxers, unsurprisingly, get very good at it. Shifting their body weight, head movements, the lot.

Mma fighters simply can’t spend the amount of time on any one discipline with this kind of attention to detail. Mma is so hard as you’re taking so many different disciplines and making them into one, spending limited time trying to master all of them individually before merging them together. Ironically this makes a Mma fight easier in a way as you often have other options to fall back on should one of your combat disciplines let you down. If you get rocked during stand up, you can take to the floor etc.

With Sports like Boxing it’s solely focused on the Boxing (hence the name) and one of the things that makes Boxing hard is that most boxers are at a very good level. Because of this most Boxers that take it seriously will be at a very good standard which means, with the limited options available, they’re sure to be landing heavy shots and an individual’s body can only take so much punishment. The points of impact in Boxing will mostly be focused on the head/brain.

It’s really hard to say one is harder than the other as they’re both very different sports that share some similarities.

I think this goes some way as to why some boxers hold Mma in such low regard. They see the Mma striking and are, generally, less than impressed. When it comes to Wrestling, Ju, Jit su or any other type of grappling, because they don’t KNOW what it is they look at it in a way as to pass it off as men rolling around hugging, rather than seeing it for WHAT it is. Men rolling around with the ability to “hug” you to death. I know not all boxers think this way; I’m just talking about the lowest common denominator.

So we’ve covered that the sports are different. While there are more disciplines in Mma, Boxing is in some ways more intricate as there’s less to focus on.

And that Tyson (Luke) Fury is a loud mouth Dullard (a hybrid of a retarded, dull person)

So now we’re all on the same page. Here’s the video (for those who haven’t seen it & even for those that have) of me asking Tyson (Luke) Fury. A Colossal question….

Where does delusion start and promotion end???

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SHAWN TOMPKINS

I’m writing this blog about Shawn, a couple of years after his passing, because I’ve decided to write a book called Colossal Concerns: Tales from the gym and other colossal adventures.

As I started to plan these epic tales of Mma wonderment for your consumption, I sorted through the filing cabinet in my brain (Which is full) and selected the best stories that will both amuse and interest you.

Whilst recalling various episodes during my career for the book I arrived at the part where I trained at Randy Couture’s gym, Xtreme Couture, in Las Vegas back in 2008.

As I was cataloguing these stories, I arrived at ones with Shawn. As I relived these events I was hit with a flood of guilt. Why hadn’t I done a blog about him sooner!?!

Now, please don’t mistake me here, me and Shawn weren’t best buddies or anything like that but I got to know him a little during my stay in Vegas as he had little choice but to see me every day!

When I was training at Xtreme Couture I didn’t know a soul, apart from Jay White, who had taken pity on me and let me stay at his home and invade his and his family’s space for ten weeks!

While I was at this strange new gym I was doing my best not to seem intimated or out of place while sharing mat space with legends like Randy Couture, Wanderlei Silva, Heath Herring, Forrest Griffin, Grey Maynard, Tyson Griffin and Mike Pyle – to name drop a few. Not to mention the constant influx of the best fighters in the world that had casually ‘swung’ by.

I can’t tell you how invaluable it was to have a guy like Shawn Tompkins that, while not knowing me from Adam, took me under his wing and made me feel like part of his extended fight family.

When you experience something like this it really is comforting, especially as I didn’t know anyone there and was away from home, hence the guilt I expressed earlier about not having done this blog before.

During the short time I knew Shawn; he made an impact on me and many other fighters.

One of these fighters was my training partner Ronnie ‘the Kid Ninja’ Mann. A quiet lad, very unimposing but who soaks up Mma knowledge like a lethal sponge. Myself and Charlie (our trainer at the time) tried to market Ron as- Ronnie ‘the baby’ Mann.

At one point in time both me and Charlie had plans for me to push Ron to the cage in a pram, then make him fight in a nappy and give him his water in a baby’s bottle!! You have no idea how close this was to actually happening. Me and Charlie actually spent time looking for one of those giant Victorian prams to sit Ronnie in.

In the end though, I was worried it might have sent poor old Ron into a nervous breakdown, I mean Mma is hard enough, you don’t really need a couple of jokers making you dress up as a baby before you do battle…

If Ron does ever come round to our way of thinking though, I want the credit.

I’ve known Ronnie for a good ten years now as we used to train to together at Trojan back in the day. When I left Trojan the hardest part, like I’m sure most fighters will tell you, is suddenly not seeing the people that you’ve made bonds with and that have been decimated to helping you and you them. I felt, and still do feel, very protective over Ron, so you can imagine how pleased I was when I heard he went off to train with Shawn Tompkins.

Ron wasn’t there long, about a year, when Shawn died. But in that time I could see how strong a relationship they had formed. Below are a couple of pictures which I think say it all.

 

 

If you haven’t heard about Ronnie ‘Kid Ninja’ Mann or want to follow his progress then check out his fights and see what I’m talking about. You can also follow him on twitter at https://twitter.com/RonnieMannMMA . If you’re in the Evesham area … The little fucker has only gone and got his own gym sorted called Iron MANN Gym. So go and invade his space.

Like I previously mentioned; training at Xtreme was like a who’s, who. It was really great to train and learn from such experienced fighters. On the down side (which I addressed in my previous blog on here “there’s no place like home, or the gym’ – if you find the right one“) there was only so much time that the trainers could spend one on one with there being so many fighters training there. I mean, they had a lot of high profile fighters, ones like Wand and Tim Sylvia that brought their own trainers in and just used the bodies.

But when I went there I was with only me, myself and I, and I needed instruction.

My friend Jay, who was good friends with Tompkins, introduced me to him. Shawn took a look at me on pads, asked me questions about who I was fighting in my upcoming bout (Brett Roger) and just generally gave a shit. He worked pads with me almost every day and when we’d finish I was invited to the house he shared with his fighters Mark Hominick, Chris Horodecki and Sam Stout, who was the brother to Shawn’s beautiful wife Emilie Tompkins. These guys were as close as close could be and I sensed this immediately. I was pleased to be a small part of this team spirit.

My fight against Brett Rogers was around the corner and I noticed that I was a lot more nervous than usual, even though I’d been sparring a lot. I worked my hands with Shawn (honourable mentions to Ron Frazier who helped me with my hands as well and did my corner with Shawn, and a mention to Jake Bonacci, who helped me with cardio) plus I was doing strength and conditioning training and the Dolce diet, before it was the huge success it is today, with the Man himself, Mike Dolce.

So why was I feeling unconfident? if I had great sparring, my cardio was great -thanks to Jake- and my weight was at around 117kg (a weight I will get to again, even though I’m writing this on NYE about to get pissed and weighting around 135kg). All these things were great but the thing that keep nagging at me was the lack of all-round guidance I had.

I would do my cardio, S&C, pads and spar (not all in one day) then I would do whatever classes that were being taught by the top of the line pros. The only thing was, I could be learning arm bars from the guard when really I needed to be learning take downs and how to control Brett once I’d hit the floor.

Please understand this is not Xtreme s fault. I paid a very reasonable fighters rate to train there and got a lot great training for that. It was my fault as I didn’t really ‘get’ how a proper Mma gym worked. With Xtreme Couture you seem to use the fighters available and their great facility to make your own fight camp, which is why a lot of the pros take their own team members to Xtreme and use the gym and other guys there to take their own regime to the next level.

Fight day arrives. I’m in the changing rooms feeling nauseous and I remember exactly what Shawn said to me

“Are you nervous? You look fucking nervous” I nodded “Good, that’s your body getting ready, you’re going out there to fight of course you’re going to be nervous, that’s sensible“

I thought about what Shawn had said and was pleased that the nerves did dissipate somewhat. It was such a simple thing to say to me at the time but he was reassuring, made me feel completely normal that I was nervous. It’s what you need when you’re feeling this way as sometimes the nerves can perpetuate if you think about them too much. Shawn brought me back in to focus so to speak.

I still wish he’d told me to duck though, as I was later stopped in the first by Rogers by a KO.

I’m kidding, that advice was great advice and fighters who know me will recognise it, because I say it all the time to them when they’re in that same position I was.

In a sense, and without trying to be dramatic. It’s an example of how we all, in this particular case ‘Shawn Tompkins’ lives on… long after we pass.

 All that left to say is thanks Shawn, you really made a mark on me and so, so many other people’s lives… Thank you.

 

R.I.P Shawn Tompkins March 16, 1974 – August 14, 2011

Picture courtesy of Evan Shoman (@shomanart)

 

 

 

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“SO, YOU WANT TO BE A FUCKING FIGHTER” ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“So, you want to be a FUCKING FIGHTER” ?

To many who hear these words reverberating off of their eardrums from Mr. Dana White, the answer is an unequivocal “yes.” But since I’m not in that pressure cooker like these new fighters are and since I actually AM a fucking fighter, I took time to ponder what the question really means.

Nowadays, this question is being asked more and more. Why? Because the UFC is having more and more shows, which means more fighters are getting injured, which means more fighters are needing to step up on some short notice, causing Dana White to bark out the inevitable question. I’m going to look at both sides of this coin, and, since every case is different, I’m going to do my best to give you my humble opinion of what makes a fighter. So are you fucking ready? Ready for some fucking MMA knowledge bombs, motherfucker?

I apologize–I’ve got that all out of my system now.

The Promoter, a.k.a. Dana White:

Now Dana’s point of view is this: if you make your living as an mixed martial artist, then you should be ready at any time to step up and fight. I mean you’re a fighter, right? He’s only asking you to do what you do. I think Dana gets constantly frustrated because he’s trying to make the best fights possible for the fans, and more and more he’s running into roadblocks in terms of unwilling fighters who don’t want to step up on short notice and risk losing. Which to a lot of people, Dana included, is the essence of what makes a fighter. And, to the credit of Dana, he has avoided the pitfalls of boxing, where to make a fight happen means a year of negotiations. I can’t see that happening (thankfully) with MMA, and the reason for that is Dana. Now, the “do you want to be a fucking fighter?” question was first asked on the TV show “The Ultimate Fighter.” Let’s always keep in mind that it’s a television show, but, having said that, it’s a valid question when it’s being posed to inexperienced fighters, many of whom haven’t got that many fights under their belt.

I remember seeing a few fighters who didn’t really want it. They had this chance to be on a big TV show, and they didn’t want to take it. You shouldn’t have to ask this question when you’re talking about fighters who are in the UFC. I mean they’re there for a reason, of course they want to be a fighter. But Dana is finding it harder to get fighters to step up, which is causing problems. Look what happened with Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen and how Dana laid the blame and heaped untold pressure on to Jones. He did this simply because it’s black and white in Dana’s mind. You’re a fighter. If the situation calls for it, you step up, it’s as fucking simple as that.

The fighter:

Now, there are many different types of situations, and I can’t go through every single one of them. So let’s stick with the Jon Jones situation. Of course, I’m not talking for Jon Jones–just where I think he was coming from by not taking the fight. Jones is at the top. He has fame, he’s making money, and rightly so. When he didn’t take the fight with Chael, who would be coming up a weight, and the UFC was canceled, a lot of people scratched their heads and went for the jugular with Jones. I mean, why not save the day, taking on a competitive, but smaller, fighter? He’d been training anyway, so just take the fight! But what people forget is that, once you’re at the top of the mountain, and you’ve gotten there through following a certain system, you don’t want to change that system. I believe in the case of Jon Jones that it was an unnecessary risk. It deviated from the system and therefore was a risk he and Greg Jackson weren’t willing to take. Jones wasn’t scared of fighting Chael…it was just unplanned. So, I guess the question is: when should you take a fight you haven’t fully prepared for? If you don’t step up, are you not a really a fighter? This is a very personal question which each fighter who is in that situation has to answer.

My opinion:

Where to start….I’ve looked at both points of view, and I can see valid points on both sides. At the end of the day, Dana White is looking at it from a promoter’s point of view. Of course he wants fighters to step up. He wants to put the best show possible on. And Jon Jones is looking at it from his point of view. Why should he take unnecessary risks? I look at it like this: as a rule, mixed martial artists aren’t scared to fight other mixed martial artists. If they are, then they’ve chosen the wrong profession. What fighters are scared of is stepping up, taking the fight on short notice, losing, and getting cut (I’m speaking in general here, not about the Jones/Chael fight). I think this is the problem with the UFC–the upside doesn’t weigh out the potential downside of losing your job. I haven’t fought for the UFC, but from being around the MMA world and knowing a lot of people it seems very dog eat dog. That’s great to a point, but when competition is so fierce, stepping up and losing while making Dana happy for the time being is risky. How long is his memory? How good is the memory of mma fans? This is why more and more fighters aren’t willing to take the risk. They know that they could only get one shot in the UFC and they have to be at their best to take advantage of that shot.

When I fought for Pride, they would change my opponent seemingly by the hour. It was just the way it was, and I know I wasn’t the only one. Were the fighters of Pride more braver, more fighter-like? No, of course not, but the difference was that in Pride, as long as you fought with all your heart and gave it your all, you’d be back to fight again. If you just fought to win, there was a strong possibility that you wouldn’t be back. The reverse is true in the UFC. I believe Dana can’t have it both ways. You can’t have fighters so fearful of their job security and then get mad when they don’t jump at the chance to take a fight at two weeks notice.

So, to wrap it up, I think if Dana and the UFC want more fighters to step up then they can’t have the threat of executioner’s axe resting on the fighters neck. Of course fighters can’t keep losing and expect to keep their position in the UFC, but I think that if you talk to most of the fighters in the UFC they will tell you that they fight constantly, surrounded by an air of uncertainty.

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FREAKY MMA

Roll up, roll up, let your eyes feast greedily upon the wonders of man as warriors from around the globe in all manner of shapes and sizes are pitted upon each other using mind, body and soul in the ultimate form of combat, MMA. Where, from the ashes of battle only one true victor will emerge and be left standing. Roll up, roll up!

This is how I imagine the M.C. of a Carnival would sound selling the ‘freak show fights’ that we witness in MMA today. If you live in Japan then you get a lady from New Zealand with a crazy cool voice to do it. With Japanese Mma now struggling and the UFC not having adopted the kind of format that showcases the ‘freaks show fights’, it looks like the ‘freak show fight’ might be on it last (overly long) legs.

So this time on Colossal Concerns I want to give my views on whether this is a good or a bad thing. To answer this we have to delve into what a ‘freak show fight’ really is.

Now, this isn’t an easy question it’s like a freakily shaped onion, by that I mean it has many strange layers. So please join me while I take a closer look at what the ‘freak show fights’ are all about (clears throat) Roll up, roll up! Don’t be scared, pay your money at the door and prepare to enter the many faceted world of the ‘Freak Show’.

The ‘freak against freak’ fight

(Zulu vs. Butterbean)

This is what you call the ultimate in freak shows. Two freakishly strange shaped individuals facing each other in a Mma match. In most of the cases I can think of, you’re not going to see a whole lot of ‘technical Mma’ but what you will get is entertainment that makes the Mma purist weep. I like to watch a good freak vs. freak battle every now and again. No-one does these kinds of fights better than the Japanese.

The ‘out of your depth’ freak show fight

(Don Frye vs. Le Banner)

This is a freak show fight with a difference. It’s a rarity because there aren’t many stupidly toughly individuals around like Don Frye. This is where you’ll get a stupidly overmatched opponent and (like in this example) a stupidly tough guy and throw the tough guy to the wolves. I remember watching an interview with Don Frye before he fought Jerome Le Banner in K1 rules and Frye saying something like he’s younger than me, stronger than me and better at kick boxing than me. I was watching the interview going ‘wow, he totally knows he’s going to get his ass kicked’. Frye suffered a hideous KO.

What stuck with me was how insanely tough Frye had to be to take that fight. I wouldn’t recommend this course of action though. These fights don’t happen often, which I think is a good thing, as it’s kind of the modern day equivalent of throwing the Christians to the lions. Another of these ‘out of your depth freak show fights that comes to mind is Cro cop against some poor, masked, pro wrestler Dos Santos.

The classic ‘David verses Goliath’ Freak Fight

(Sapp power bombing Minotauro)

The classic David vs. Goliath freak show I feel embodies the essence of the ‘freak show fight’. Size against skill, can skill overcome size? It’s a question that goes as far back as time and I feel will always be asked and will always be interesting to watch.

The Freak Show ‘format’

(Yamma cage with sloping edges)

I’m not too keen on these kinds of formats. It’s one of those that sounds good, but in practice fails to live up to expectations.

The first round is K1 Rules the next round its Mma.

One fight that springs to mind which used this format was Shinya Aoki vs ( kick boxer)Yuichiro Nagashima the first round was K1 rules and consisted of Aoki desperately doing outrageous flying kicks to wind the clock down so to make it into the Mma rounds. He succeeded somewhat and made it into the 2nd Mma rounds and ironically got ko’d from a  sloppy take down.

There are other examples of these kinds of fights but they are all pretty forgettable. Also there a picture above of the short lived YAMMA fights. They decided it would be a great idea to mess about with the cage and have sloped sides put in. This added nothing to the fights and just made it easier for wrestlers to push their opponents to the edge and get the take down.

Whilst I’m a fan of the ‘Freak show fights’ most of the time, I think messing about with the format of Mma and the cage is a step too far. It adds nothing to Mma, quite the opposite in fact. I feel like it takes it away from the sport and the fights taking place.

Conclusion

So there we have the many facets of what makes up the ‘Freak Show fight’, shining through with all its odd like glory. So, what’s the conclusion, should the freak show be left to die a quiet undignified death or should we pucker up, take a deep breath and breathe life into this two-headed fiend? It seems, at this moment in time we don’t really have a choice in the matter as Japanese Mma itself is on life support and the UFC model of Mma has no place for the Freak Show. For now at least it looks like the ‘freak show’ might be taking its last breath.

Some will say that this is a good thing, that these types of fights make a mockery out of Mma and whilst sometimes I can see where they’re coming from with this point of view, I feel that the freak show fight represents more than just unskilled, strange shaped humans doing battle. Sure, this might sometimes be the case which infuriates the Mma purists that feel Mma is being ‘dragged to new lows’, but generally it poses the age old question… Size against skill? (See example above).

Now, I’m not arguing that the UFC should start putting on ‘freak show fights’ as somehow that wouldn’t seem right. When it comes to the ‘Freak show’ there is only one nation that we can turn to that handles the ‘freaks’ with the proper love and affection… That, of course, is the Japanese. I’m not exactly sure why it is that the Japanese manage to balance the ingredients of the ‘freak show’ and get them all just right. If I were to hazard a guess I’d say it was because the Japanese match makers themselves are genuinely interested to see what happens in these match ups. This is the very reason I wouldn’t like to see the UFC taking on the freak show format.

I feel that not only does the freak show offer the size against strength question but these fights are also fun. I want to see what happens when you put Butterbean against Zulu, I’m interested in the outcome. That being said, would I like to see a Mma organisation that only puts on freak show matches? No, I wouldn’t, but one here and there does no harm at all, in fact I think it lends a different element to Mma which I can only see as a good, positive thing.

As of writing this the ‘freak show fights’ have almost flat lined but don’t worry too much my oddity obsessed friends because when Japanese Mma finds a way, and I believe it will, it will rise up and will do so with the ‘freak show fight’ in tow. I picture Dr Frankenstein (Japanese Mma) after shocking his newly invigorated monster (freak show fights) into conciseness, screaming “it’s alive, it’s alive!”

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